Taiwan ‘Hack Girls’
[Edit: I had to replace the video with an older one because the original one has been pulled. This one doesn't have lap dancers but it sets the scene quite right]
Bad Yahoo! Very bad!
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Did you notice that that video was shot in 2008?
No I didn’t. Does it matter?
That video is from 2008. There are new ones from a few days ago that involve lap dancing.
Ahh, yes, I know, but those got taken offline by the posters so I had to replace it with this one. Let me know if you find a video from this year.
Simon has stills from the video on http://simonwillison.net/2009/Oct/19/hackday/
Add them to the post perhaps?
A few journo’s have copies of the video saved offline too, hopefully they will upload them.
This 2008 video is nothing. This old video is just a bunch of girls they hired to dance on stage. That’s like hiring a Girls Music Group to perform on stage. And that’s what they do at corporate events.
You want to get the video of the lap dancing which is what the current bad-yahoo news is all about.
By you putting up this substitute video, it’s like you are saying these legitimate music performers are doing something illegal.
Yeah, sorry, didn’t realize until later. Do you have any media for me to share that has the right setting?
Also: “By you putting up this substitute video, it’s like you are saying these legitimate music performers are doing something illegal.” Are you serious?
yes i’m serious. you’re saying they are bad when you have the wrong video. if you have the right video, then what you say is correct. but by putting up the wrong video, you are wrong and you just slandering those girl performers. the current news is about having lap dancers at the yahoo event. and yahoo is apologizing about that. people are searching for this video. and you post the substitute video. because of the news, you are essentially implying the girls in the substitute video are doing the lap dancing which is not what is happening in the substitute video. and that paints the girls as doing something wrong and illegal. posting the wrong video is just bad form and wrong on your part.
Ha, given that my blog post didn’t say much more than “bad Yahoo!” I think its amazing how you think I’m attacking the dancers.
My problem is that Yahoo is not really making OpenHack a particularly women friendly event like this. To quote Simon Willison
“Our industry is still young. If we want an all-encompassing technology scene, we need to actively work to cultivate an inclusive environment. This means a zero tolerance approach to this kind of entertainment. Booth babes, tequila girls, and scantily clad gyrating women simply set the wrong tone, here or abroad. Heck, this isn’t just about offending women—many guy geeks I know would be mortified by this kind of thing.” http://simonwillison.net/2009/Oct/19/hackday/
I thank you for defending the honour of scarcely dressed dancers around the world, but to think I have anything to apologise for is just mental, especially as my original video was indeed pointing at the right video.
I think Cristiano’s point is that the original video was taken down silently (both on youtube and vimeo) without any word, Simon however has some stills from the video if you still doubt the… explicitness of the action..
The video was added to emphasise the point of the dancing girls, he couldn’t show the original video because it was made private..
and is there a real need to be “Anonymous coward”?